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Hooked on the Pain: Why We Love The Handmaid’s Tale


In a world of too much good TV –
when you barely have time to keep up, let alone pause and sit with
what you’ve watched, The Handmaid’s Tale stands out
in an important way: it’s a show that lingers with you. An episode might crawl around
in your mind for days, even if the main aftereffect you’re feeling
is something akin to depression or despair. “My fault. My fault.” There’s a lot of
highly entertaining TV out there that gets us jonesing for the next fix, but leaves our minds pretty soon
after we move our eyes in another direction. But what’s strange about watching The Handmaid’s
Tale is that it is also a binge-worthy show, the kind that you gets you
good and hooked, and yet you have to wonder
what it is that’s hooking you, because so much of the experience
of watching is painful. “But only in suffering
will we find grace.” The question naturally arises,
are we enjoying the pain? Is there something perverse going on
in the love for this show that many people feel? “There’s pain now. So much of it.” We’d argue – no – the pain of
experiencing June’s story is not a dirty, escapist thrill. This pain is productive. So in this video we’re going to take
a look at why that is. Before we go on,
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for free. “Or you shall feel the pain of His judgment. For that is His love.” Watching The Handmaid’s Tale is
an experience of suffering on multiple levels. There’s the vicarious torture
of identifying with June and with what she
and all the other handmaids endure. “Losing a child is like
losing a limb, a part of your body. But you know
what that’s like too, right?” Then there’s the emotional frustration of
wanting a good outcome for characters we know can’t really get it. The strange contradiction
of watching this show is that while we want June to escape
and get a happy ending, if she did, the show
in its current form would be over. “What will happen when I get out? I probably don’t have to worry about it,
because there probably is no out.” So we’re torn between
wanting June’s torture to end, and wanting more of this show
which generally consists of June being tortured. As the show goes on, it will have to find a way out
of this structural conundrum– probably by expanding the story world
further outside the Waterford home, which we’re already seeing
start to happen more. “See? This is the problem. How am I supposed
to motivate employees if I can’t leverage salaries?” But for as long as Offred is
trapped in Gilead, there’s even a kind of guilt
we viewers might feel, because on some level it’s as if
we’re willing her to continue suffering so that we can watch more of this drama. “Please, God, I don’t want pain…” Of course, not everyone is hooked on
the relentless brutality of The Handmaid’s Tale. Some critics have argued that Season 2 degenerated
into endless shock value abuses of women. And they’ve even labeled it “torture porn”
or “misery porn.” In one episode, June’s voiceover even apologizes
for the show’s constant misery. “I’m sorry there is so much pain
in this story.” But while some viewers have turned off, Hulu reported that the audience for Season
2 doubled Season 1’s numbers And there are some important reasons
why it’s not right to use the “torture porn” or “misery porn”
label for The Handmaid’s Tale. First of all, everything that we see in the
show has actually happened, either in history or our world today. Margaret Atwood wrote in 2012
about the book, “I would not include anything
that human beings had not already done in some other place or time, or for which the technology did not
already exist. The group-activated hangings,
the tearing apart of human beings, the clothing specific to
castes and classes, the forced childbearing
and the appropriation of the results, the children stolen by regimes
and placed for upbringing with high-ranking officials, the forbidding of literacy,
the denial of property rights: all had precedents,
and many were to be found not in other cultures and religions, but within western society,
and within the ‘Christian’ tradition, itself.” The show’s creator Bruce Miller has also
followed this rule for the show. He’s said “these are things that are happening
in the real world. We’re not making them up.” So to say that these abuses we see
in Handmaid’s Tale are gratuitous or pointless is kind of out of touch, when these are things that have really happened,
or are happening somewhere, and could conceivably happen
much closer to home in the future. As Nicole Cord-Cruz wrote on Zimbio, the show, “forces us to reflect on the problems of our
world, instead of tuning out on Twitter. It’s meant to make us sick. The Handmaid’s Tale is
rooted in reality, and relegating it to torture porn is
a statement of privilege.” “Your shadow was so charming,
I wish mine could be that intimate. It’s just so overwhelming,
My Martha’s been cleaning up for days.” True examples of “Torture porn” frequently
derives a questionable sadistic pleasure by encouraging some level of
audience identification with the torturer. Common examples that are often pointed to
like Saw or Final Destination arguably provoke curiosity about
the creative or strange ways that characters are killed. But in The Handmaid’s Tale, we’re not
taking the point of view of the oppressors, nor do we find the violence
exciting or fascinating. We’re very much in
the women’s experience. “No. No. Please stop. Please stop it. Please stop. NO. STOP.” You might argue instead, then, that the pain
we’re hooked on is masochistic – are we enjoying feeling like the victim? but this explanation isn’t
totally satisfying, either — June’s story so often emphasizes her resolution
not to be a passive victim, but to fight and keep hope alive. “Nolite te bastardes carborundorum,
bitches.” Thus for all these reasons, the argument that the Handmaid’s Tale’s
misery is indulgent or pornographic just doesn’t hold
up. The pain of watching this show is
the pain of being pushed to actually look at reality
and face difficult truths of the world, rather than fleeing into
a comfortable distraction or escape. “The world can be quite an … ugly place.” And the reason some of us are hooked
on this painful experience is that surprisingly little art these days
does manage to do this, even though you could argue
it’s the most important thing that art can and should do. “Now I’m awake to the world. I was asleep before.” So what “reality” is it exactly
that The Handmaid’s Tale is making us face? We talked in another video about how
beyond literal parallels to overt oppression, The Handmaid’s Tale symbolically reflects
dynamics we can recognize in a subtler way, even in US society – like the way a pregnant women might feel
infantilized by those around her, “Ohh, you can do much better
than that, can’t you?” or the way a successful woman might wonder
if on some level her husband wants to take her down
a peg or two. “My wife. Always so strong.” In Season 2, The Handmaid’s Tale has an
eerie knack for reflecting global world events as they’re
happening. “Did you try to find me?” “I did. I tried so hard. Daddy did too.” “Why didn’t you try harder?” In these cases the timing of the show’s
plots has been so close to news headlines that — given the filming schedules —
the mirroring of these details can’t have been planned. And the deeper explanation for
the Handmaid’s Tale’s relevance comes from the ideas
in its source material. Atwood wrote, explaining some of her thinking
in conceiving of Gilead, quote, “The deep foundation of the US… was not the comparatively recent
18th-century Enlightenment structures of the republic, with their talk of equality
and their separation of church and state, but the heavy-handed theocracy of
17th-century Puritan New England, with its marked bias against women.” “The mouth of a woman is a deep pit,
he that falls therein will suffer.” “which would need only the opportunity
of a period of social chaos to reassert itself.” This statement points to a fundamental piece
of the US identity that’s captured in Handmaid’s Tale. “‘Gilead knows no bounds,’ Aunt Lydia said. ‘Gilead is within you.'” While so much of American rhetoric centers
on Enlightenment ideals like freedom and all men
being created equal, another perhaps equally important element
of our society’s of our emotional core is this Puritanical outlook: A somewhat strict standard of piety,
a willingness to judge others’ sins harshly, “I don’t know how you could
give your baby up to somebody else.” “I’m trying not to.” “I would die first.” “Yeah, I used to think that too.” and a conservative approach
to family and womanhood. “No wonder God has turned His back on us. No wonder there are no children. He doesn’t want them to grow up
in this… screwed-up world.” The US is the most religious
wealthy country in the world, Literary critic Harold Bloom calls our country
“a nation obsessed with religion,” and the pervasive religiosity
of Americans is evident even in the underlying logic
of our popular thought and sayings that don’t seem overtly religious- “Everything that’s meant to happen does.” As Psychology Today wrote, “The saying
that everything happens for a reason is the modern, New Age version
of the old religious saying: ‘It’s God’s will.'” “Blessed be the fruit.” “May the Force be with you.” In the book, Atwood imagined
how this Puritanical spirit would be magnified in dark times. “You’re spoiled, you’re privileged,
and you’re living in an academic bubble! All of you! The rate of healthy births has dropped
61% in the last 12 months!” and so because we currently are in
a divided, contentious era, politically, the story by following its own internal logic
will naturally arrive at emotional and thematic resonances
with events of our world. “But only the truth can save America now.” What we’re really recognizing here is
an emotional reality. There is a mirror of our American society
in The Handmaid’s Tale — it’s not a literal one, but a reflection
of something that we recognize, that can be felt. “But ordinarily,
it’s just what you’re used to. This may not seem ordinary to you now,
but after a time it will. This will become ordinary.” And the terror of watching this show is
that this emotional connection to our society makes Gilead feel plausible — especially when we think of Atwood’s statements
about how social catastrophes, like the show’s fertility and climate crises, could bring Puritan panic
and extremism to the fore. “They can’t just do this. They can’t.” “They can.” Atwood has warned that climate change,
especially, presents a danger likely to hit women hard in the future, as women tend to suffer disproportionately
in wars and times of upheaval. Season 2 of Handmaid’s Tale has centered
a lot on the question, what makes someone a mother? In the season finale, Serena Joy –
after having stolen a child by force — finally becomes a mother
when she makes the ultimate sacrifice of giving her child up
for the girl’s best interest. “She cannot grow up in this place… Listen to me. [SOBS] You know she can’t.” In the episode, Offred refers to the baby
by the name Serena chose, “Call her Nicole.” to honor that Serena’s sacrifice has given
her daughter a future. Being a parent, after all,
is giving life to a future that we ourselves won’t
fully witness or enjoy. “I need you to do something for me, okay? Listening? Enjoy your life.” The deeper point in Serena’s transformation
is that being a good parent — or a good person
— sometimes means doing the hard thing,
the thing that doesn’t feel good. “We believe that our sons and daughters
should be taught to read it.” “[MEN MURMUR] That is
a radical proposal, Mrs. Waterford.” “Offered with the deepest respect. And the love that I have for my daughter. And for all the daughters in Gilead.” And what’s liberating about spending some
time with this message is that we don’t
always hear a lot in our culture about the hard things we need to do
for ourselves, our families or our society. More emphasis is placed on comforts
and quick fixes we can buy to make life easier, and the ways “wellness” activities
can make everything perfect. But the reality is that life is full of tough
choices between options that all don’t feel good
enough. Life is plagued by feelings of powerlessness
to change what we think is wrong. “And I’m so sorry I couldn’t be there. For you. And to protect you. I wanted to.” One of the long-standing criticisms of TV,
versus movies, is that TV is like junk food. You eat more and more,
but you’re never full because you’re not getting
the nutrition of a meal. Unlike a well-structured movie,
so the argument goes, the never-ending action of long-running TV
show never offers a catharsis. But The Handmaid’s Tale brings to the surface
and addresses real emotions in us that we’re not acknowledging
a lot of the time, “I don’t need oranges. I need to scream. I need to grab the nearest machine gun.” So it does offer an important release. And when the show is over,
we remember it, we stay with it, and after the depression and terror subside
we feel better, because in the end it feels good to
acknowledge that life is difficult, and there’s a fair chance
it could just get worse. Ultimately what’s so satisfying about The
Handmaid’s Tale is that it makes us look at a worst-case scenario. It makes us face the hardest things
imaginable in life, and in that process we also confront
what’s challenging in smaller ways in our regular lives. We watch June go through
the worst possible pain, and still go on to live
and fight another day. “I think, in this place,
you grab love wherever you can find it.” So in the face of all the terrible things
we can imagine coming to pass, we can comfort ourselves
with a truth that June teaches us: That we possess far more strength
than we know, and that when it comes down to it,
we can do the hardest things, if we need to. “Tell her I love her.” “June! No! June! June!” This is Pes. Pes is a director
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100 thoughts on “Hooked on the Pain: Why We Love The Handmaid’s Tale

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  2. This isn’t going to happen and to entertain the idea of that is straying us away from making things right. It may be based on the realities of the past but it’s definitely not in our future.

  3. This is a wonderful show, one that I think everyone should watch. Having said that, however, there came a time I had to stop watching it for a time because the pain I felt for June and the other handmaidens was just too visceral. I had to stop and recalibrate back into reality. It's just a testament to how well the show puts you into the minds of the victims.

  4. On that point that the violence shows what’s real: awareness is fine and well, but I feel that a call to action is missing. Is the show donating to reuniting families who were separated at the border, or to organizations that try to save female people from genital mutilation? Idk man, I’m not sure how much more awareness the average tv watcher needs, but awareness with a call to action seems more justifiable. Otherwise, the show is just another show, at least to me

  5. Just came of an Alt-right interpretation video of the Handmaids Tale. Many lost the point that Atwood was trying to make and instead said that "Feminazis" wish to punish white American males. They also blamed Jews and the gays for trying to take over the world….but it's interesting to hear another perspective.

  6. the handmaids tale doesnt make me sad as much as it makes me angry at the villians
    they are normal people , not some mutated super powered alien uber villains, and yet they are worst then any bad guy ive seen in marvel movies
    i really hope next season well get to see serena doing a walk of shame and aunt lydia thrown into a cage with a bear in it

  7. This show is actually really difficult for me to watch. The first season was very triggering due to the ceremony scenes. Reducing this show down to torture porn is offensive and unreasonable. This show is about the harsh reality of life and how to survive and that’s why I watch it.

  8. 12:06 "….as women suffer disproportionately in wars and times of upheaval." WTF? How many women died on D-Day? How many women are buried in Arlington National Cemetery? How many women were drafted into the military in the last century?

  9. The main reason why this religious far right assholes take charge is because the people of the left (for the most part) are not willing to arm themselves and rise up.

  10. I watched this show with my boyfriend and early on he made the comment “Oh, come on. Now we’re just watching torture porn.” This made me feel….gross. A little confused. I couldn’t put my finger on why this idea felt wrong. Then I watched this video. You said “That is a statement of Privilege.” This made me realize that my BF just genuinely doesn’t know, he isn’t aware of how real this is or that it exists. And in some ways he’s actively choosing not to try to understand or empathize? Also, It MAKES SENSE that he would refer to it as “porn” because violence in our porn runs rampant. This statement, “We’re just watching torture porn,” is a statement of male privilege and conditioning.

    My boyfriend reminds me of Luke (and Nick) from HT. A kind, loving person. But kinda… thick. Unaware, and in some ways, unwilling to empathize, so they become part of the problem. And even though my BF & Luke are both nice guys, they’re like: All the men in the middle. The men that didn’t start the problem, but aren’t helping it.

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  12. why are you making religious out to be evil? there are so many christen religion that aren't as zealot as puritan . Also their has been hard times and none of this happened. this isn't religion this is sexism.

  13. Dude the show isn't torture porn! It's quite literally the life of many women here in Saudi Arabia live everyday

  14. 12:07 “…as women tend to suffer disproportionately at a time of war.”
    Last time I checked men have done most of the fighting. This current division between the sexes is not caused by western ‘misogyny’ but rather by dishonest people like those who created this channel. The narrator makes a false statement that the United States is obsessed with religion and is oppressive. However, she never once brings up the true oppression caused by religious ideologies such as Islam and the patronizing narrative of feminism.

    Islam is an ideology that strongly believes that women are inferior. In the Hadith (Sahih Al-Bukhari) Mohammed claimed that women make up the majority of the occupants in hell because “they curse a great deal and are ungrateful towards their husbands. They are logically and morally deficient.” He also stated that the testimony of two women is equal to that of man. It goes even further in the Quran chapter 4 “The Woman,” along with other parts of the text, where it discusses the ownership of female sex slaves, the divorcing of prepubescent girls, the allowance of a husband to beat his wife and many other terrible acts.

    The negative impact of Mohammed’s cruel ideology was acknowledged by his child bride Aisha in the Hadith when she witness a woman getting beat by her husband to the point where here bruises were green.

    The Islamic ideology is not left to the interpretation of denominations due to it’s terror being solidified by the legislation derived from the texts in Muslim nations. Women are not allowed to drive, walk in public without a male escort, take a political position, etc.

    Feminism constantly brings up fictional misogyny in Western society yet embraces Islam, which genuinely has a rape culture. The topics of Islamic grooming/rape gangs in Europe can be brought up along with blaming a victim of rape for the incident due to not wearing a hijab. The social movement that claims to promote “female empowerment” embraces an ideology that believes women are inferior. This is done through the narrative of multiculturalism, false accusations of bigotry and forcing diversity into our culture.

    Feminism is a failure. Unfortunately the whole lists of reasons why as well as every detail cannot be pointed out in just one comment. So, I’ll conclude it with this one question: If there is an existing inequality between the sexes in first-world, Western nations, then what rights do men have that women don’t ?

  15. Why does the author talk about ancient christian custom, instead of actual muslim culture on her book´s reviews????!!! LGTTTBIQ Agenda perhaps?

  16. rooted in reality? Actually living in the place where the cult is stated to rule, this is far from real, unless the West falls to Islam.

  17. From Aristotle's "Poetics": "Tragedy, then, is an imitation of an action that is serious, complete, and of a certain magnitude; in language embellished with each kind of artistic ornament, the several kinds being found in separate parts of the play; in the form of action, not of narrative; through pity and fear effecting the proper purgation of these emotions."
    The purgation is what Aristotle called "catharsis" (Κάθαρσις).

  18. Subtle-Er is not a word. It’s more subtle. Also it’s not “rom-coN.” It’s rom-coM. CoM = short for coMedy.

  19. You perfectly described what i felt watching the show and i experienced the same thing watching Netflix’s a series of unfortunate events , i love shows that aren’t all rainbow and sunshine and that goes deeper into our nature as human beings which is sometimes really ugly, but with all the ugliness we can find ways of soothing ourselves like connecting to people like us , empathy and love

  20. I find something else disturbing. In fact, I found comments about the characters of this show, albeit most likely by young people, alarming.
    If this were a period piece, I doubt that ( almost always females) would leave comments such
    as, ‘ I hate Eden’ or ‘I hate Nick! ‘ The judgements were as though it was a ‘Soap Opera’.
    What if it were an all black cast and it was historically accurate? Would they ‘hate’ people who have no choices?!
    It would have made an : Excellent ‘Limited Series’.

  21. Women suffer more in times if war and struggle?
    But didn't the second world war give women the greatest freedom? We have been freed from being dependant on men and relegated to the blue dress.

  22. True what makes this show so scary is that this stuff could and did happen not what the characters go through on screen

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  24. The most terrifying thing about this show is that the author who wrote the book it was based off of was very careful to make sure that she didn't put anything in her book that hadn't already happened before at some point in history. The Handmaid's Tale is loosely based on actual events in the history of our world. Anyone who thinks that the United States can't look like this is a fool.

  25. Yes the DOMINIONISTS ARE ACTIVELY WORKING TO MAKE A CORPORATE THEOFASCIST MILITARISTIC STATE.
    MIKE PENCE IS THE HIGHEST RANKED DOMINIONIST IN AMERICA. TRUMP HAS SET UP A MARTIAL LAW COUP. ALL IT TAKES IS TRUMP GOING OUT OF THE PICTURE AND PENCE CAN MAKE GILEAD REAL.
    RESEARCH DOMIONISTS. QUIVERFUL.
    SEVEN MOUNTAINS.
    CHRISTIAN PATRIARCHY.
    ALL QUITE REAL RIGHT NOW.
    THE MOST EXTREME TRUMPSTERS DAILY RANT AND RAVE FOR A CIVIL WAR IN WHICH ALL DEMS AND LIBS OR ANYONE WHO DISAGREES IN ANY WAY WILL BE JAILED BEATEN. ENSLAVED OR KILLED. THEY ARE ALL HEAVILY ARMED. AND IRRATIONAL. FREE FROM LOGIC AND MERCY. FASCISM CANNOT BE CURRED EXCEPT FROM WITHIN…OR TOTAL DESTRUCTION. LIKE A TERMINATOR THEY WILL NEVER STOP.
    SO ARM YOURSELVES PREPARE TO survive for about 2 yrs.
    BECAUSE THE POWER STRUCTURE NEEDED TO MAKE GILEAD REAL IS IN PLACE N O W.
    WE RE ONE FAKE EMERGENCY AWAY FROM THEM USING OUR POWER TO FORCE IT INTO REALITY.
    ARM YOURSELVES W KNOWLEDGE AND GUNS.
    UNITE
    STRATEGIZE
    FIGHT BACK IN EVERY LEGAL WAY YOU CAN.
    AND WHEN YOURE SICK AND TIRED OF BEING SICK AND TIRED OF THIS RIGGED FROM THE START FAKE REPUBLIC DEMAND A NEW FORM OF GOVT.
    DIRECT DEMOCRACY BY PLEBESCITE. ONLY WE THE PEOPLE VOTE ON ALL ISSUES.
    NO POLITICIANS.
    NO CORPORATE INTERFERENCE.
    ONE PERSON
    ONE VOTE.
    ELECT A CEREMONIAL LEADER W FEW POWERS.
    ELECT THE SUPREME COURT FROM A PREVETTED POOL.2-10 YR TERMS. NO MORE COURT STACKING.
    ELECT RESEARCH AND ADVISE ONLY COMMITTEES. TO EDUCATE ON ALL SIDES OF THE ISSUES AND HELP THE PEOPLE LEARN TO EFFECTIVELY AND JUSTLY GOVERN THEMSELVES. 2-2 YR TERMS MAX PER COMMITTEE.
    THE SCOTUS AND COMMITTEES WILL BE MADE UP THE SAME WAY.
    3 LIBERALS
    3 TRUE MODERATES
    3 CONSERVATIVES TO ENSURE EQUAL PROTECTION UNDER THE LAW BECOMES A REALITY FOR THE FIRST TIME IN OUR HISTORY.
    THE ONLY QUESTION IS…ARE WE WISE ENOUGH TO DEMAND IT BEFORE A CRISIS CAUSED BR THE EXTREME RIGHT OR CAN WE CHOOSE A NEW DESTINY N O W?
    WE CAN CHOOSE A NEW POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC SYTEM THAT SERVES US ALL FAIRLY OR SIT BACK AND LET THE 1% EAT US ALIVE.
    DO IT N O W.
    WE CAN RISE TO THIS CHALLENGE AND BECOME THE NEXT GREAT GENERATION..
    THIS IS THE TIME
    THIS IS THE PLACE
    WE ARE THE PEOPLE
    TO
    MAKE IT SO.
    JUST DO IT.

  26. Theres a lot of illuminati symbolism in this film. Therefore one could conclude that its a warning about the nwo. Do nothing and they consider you have consented.

  27. Honestly its insulting to say the handmaids tale is torture porn, despite the fact this is so realistic and life like

  28. I know the handmaids tale is supposed to be a dystopian of the near future, but its just so much like what i am living in right now. That often times I’m caught relating to the show

  29. This show is very relevant today when you see what evil people can do in positions of power. I think it is a cautionary tale. The hypocrisy and corruption of those in power, like the commander, we see in our democratic leaders today.

  30. I highly doubt this will happen in western countries. Women have come so far in the west. However this is still happening in so many countries. We should not forget all the girls and women still suffering from opression. I see many people travel to Dubai. It is a horrible country for women, yet alot of people support the country through traveling.

  31. June chose to stay because she is strong, & she was thinking of more than just herself, she is a resistance fighter & knows the only way to bring down a place like Gilead is from the inside & by helping others not as strong as herself

  32. Dude, I almost can't make it through episodes due to June's ridiculous amount of crying. I don't get "strong, woman" I get "generic men's idea of how much women cry". Maybe being a Military Veteran made my idea of empowered women being more masculine, but it can't just be me feeling tired of every scene June is crying.

  33. Puritanism and misogyny always lurk just beneath the surface – we are only a hair's breadth away from Saudi Arabia and Iran – from veils, floggings, stonings and the noose – and high status women are always only too eager to denigrate and punish lower caste women.

  34. FOR ME this show is so captivating because as a feminist, a gay man and a "leftie" I see this show SO SIMILAR to our current times and AN INCH AWAY for this kind of "shenanigans" to happen…When you look around the world, more and more right wing ideology is taking hold in many countries…Misogyny, xenophobia, racism, homophobia, religious intolerance, economic anxiety (all the ingredients necessary for a shit-bomb) seem to be on the rise…God help us all !!! SHALOM !!!

  35. Atwood has no more authority as a political consultant, climatologist, or social commentator than the average Joe and Jane on the street. And she is Canadian, hardly steeped in the true Americana of which she appears to complain. Probably unintended, but the real fear with which she so clumsily speaks is the extremism brought on by the left. It has driven secularism to religious proportions. That its currency is as gripping and no-less vacant as the Spanish Inquisition was in the 15th century or the National Socialist German Workers Party was in the 30s. Atwood's sincerity in her beliefs doesn't make it so.

  36. "we're not taking the point of view of the oppressors." I agree with those for the most part, except in the case of Serena. The show tries way too hard to make her sympathetic for a character who told her husband to rape another woman so that she might go into labor sooner.

  37. Watching this show I can't help but wish V and Evey from V for Vendetta could get teleported to this world for some good old fashioned anarchic chaos

  38. Meanwhile, stuff like this actually happens in the Middle East, but nope, too scared of a fictional TV show saying this actually happens in the US.

  39. You mentioned that this type of violence/oppression HAS happened in the real world, at some point or another, or even in modern day. But so has the violence in so-called "torture porn".

    My question is, why is SOME extreme, ugly violence considered "torture porn" (e.g. I Spit on Your Grave) and why the violence in THIS show considered to be "empowering" or "moving"? What has changed? Is it the way it's shot? Is it the context of the scene? Is it the level of blood/nudity/gore? Is it the fact that she can't fight back?

  40. What’s strange about the handmaid’s tale that no one really wants to talk aboutIs that it is a metaphor for women entering the world and the workplace leaving the home and the complexity of their complicit involvement in the world and the violent chaos found there within that they contribute to and participate in now that they have left the home. Why do you think that all of the handmaids are the ones that have to kill why do you think they make this point in showing you that the handmaids are used to enact the violet well of the government it’s because women are just as complicit as men in this fucked up world but somehow y’all have taken this shit and turned it on its head and only men are evil and there’s never been a female murder everAs if Elizabeth Bathory is an over here cackling maniacally as you all sit there and pretend you’re the nice witch of the South

  41. Watching The Handmaid’s Tale is just a nice opportunity to look back onto our own society and quote one Brian David Gilbert: “It could’ve been worse!”

  42. Honestly, June’s bravery gives me hope. Seeing her being strong in the face of true terror empowers me in real life.

  43. "The U.S. is one of the most religious wealthy countries in the world." I'm not surprised. The country was founded by puritans and it's quite obvious how that puritanical belief system has trickled down through the generations (even if that's not what they call themselves any longer). So if it's not religion a person worships then it's the all mighty dollar or it's both. I'm not saying all Americans are like this but an extremely scary amount of them are.

  44. y’all really just decided to put the human centipede with NO WARNING OH MY GOD IVE TRIED TO RID THAT IMAGE FROM MY HEAD FOR SO LONG

  45. The character I feel bad for the most is Janin, she just can't get a break as Gilead's punching bag and her insanity likely makes it worse for her. I will never understand why Aunt Lydia beats the shit out of her in one minute and cares for her the next.

  46. I don't enjoy watching rape or horrific things against anyone. I see and know enough of this in real life and I have no desire to see more of others' trauma. The book horrified me as a teenager. I burned every margaret at-wood book I owned. Not sorry.

  47. torture porn, that is basically everything you need to know about this series
    Makes you kind of glad they didn't put it on netflix.

    Also it's like the taliban invasion, but then using christianity, instead of islam. They probably call this an original story.

  48. interesting how the infographic at 9:56 don't include China and Japan, the first and third (respectively) most wealthy countries in the world. More accurate to have said the most wealthy white countries.

  49. We like seeing people survive unbearable circumstances because if it's done well we feel as if those are our victories too. All stories must have some kind of suffering or there is no story to tell.

  50. You all know my wife's, you've all slept with them . What would a twelve thousand year vitgin need with a vitgin himself ?

  51. Is 65 to 75% taxes in a republic. I'm glad I live in a federated states at only 50% tax. And if I God had my way , I would only charge 10% tax.

  52. America the land of the free is a lie ?? Correct ?? Like paying more tax in a republic helps you be independent ??

  53. I remember so much of this from school and from literature depicting our past. This series is fiction only in that this specific story never happened. However, the series is firmly based in reality. I'm glad many men in the comments are horrified and feel that this would never happen. Unfortunately, the sentiment is late. These things have already happened. We just have to make sure they don't happen again.

  54. I was raped multiple times (sodomized) by my "chrisitan" babysitter that attended the strict fundamental church we attended. I went to christian school and had to wear a uniform every day. Once the principle gave me corporal punishment. I asked him if I had to take off my underwear. I really relate to this show. This show is cathartic.

  55. I love from the handmaid's that it shows that even if you are or have been hurt and abuse, and you can be called a victim, you are not broken, you can overcome it. Most media show the victims like a powerless broken creature, that can not endure what has happened, reaffirming the power of the abuser. Seeing June not to give up, make us remember our own strength, the abuser doesn't have the power of breaks you permanently.

  56. the only thing i enjoy about the pain and torture of this show is the feeling of rage towards the antagonists of the series and the feeling of seeing them suffering for the things they have done

  57. ive been trying for years to get the human centipede out of my head and you went and put it in the video… DARN IT

  58. Definitely not hooked on the pain! Waiting for her to break through and Rise all of them, and remember their power in spirit and self. GO JUNE👍

  59. Everything in the handmaid's tale as already happened. So these things could happen again. It's vital that we remember we are the majority and they are the 1% of the 1% that means the assshole inside of the ass-hole. So we rise together✨

  60. I still haven't watched the show and I've read the book but I swore I would never read it again because it made me so scared and angry. it's a shame though, because I should reread it.

  61. I think I am hooked on "June" fighting for her values and whom she loves despite having to do so within the parameters of her current society i.e. actions previously internalized as "bad." For instance killing "innocent ppl." She utilizes the tactics her oppressors are using as she realizes she cannot do nothing….do the ends justify the means ? I think this show challenges viewers to contemplate their current beliefs of morality to a higher level, such as the Heinz dilema by Kohlberg. Some may say June is turning "evil"…but to operate within her old moral framework would mean death b4 the show even started. I respect the biggest challenge all of humanity may one day face and I think the first step is deconstructing Good and Evil as labels under which intent is always present and needs to be taken into consideration. Just my 2 cents ..

  62. Its sucks that we have to pay in order to not be interrupted by ads only to have the publishers slip them into their videos. Please stop it.

  63. Best point made is that those who call it torture porn are saying so from a place of privlege! So true, many (mainly men) don't have to worry about this happening to them. So to them this is just a certain type of entertainment. To many of us women though, we see ourselves in these women– this is especially true as we watch our society spiral towards this reality

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